It’s convenient that all the planets in the Star Wars story seem to have the same gravity.
Han is all “there’s to much Vader in him,” without mentioning that there is too much Vader in Leia too.
Like, Bail Organa, bless his poor poor soul, tried to politician the Vader out of her. He tried SO FUCKING HARD.
But the fact that she abandoned politics to be a General in the Resistance says a lot about her similarities to Anakin Skywalker.
See, people get it wrong. They assume because Luke got the blond hair and the lightsaber that he is Anakin’s child. He’s not. He’s Padme’s.
Leia, though. Leia is very much Anakin’s child. She is the one with the deep anger in her. She is the one who will bring
peace to her new empirefreedom and justice back to the galaxy whether the galaxy wants it or not. She is the one who commands armies and amasses followers as easy as breathing. She joined the Rebellion while she was in her teens. She is the one with the spirit of a warrior.
Don’t get me wrong; Bail Organa did his damnedest to raise her in the mold of her mother, fighting her battles in the halls of power with words as her weapons. And she was very good at it. But unlike Padme, Leia’s words always had an edge to them, her tone and meaning always a little too sharp, a little too angry.
Peace and mercy are the trademarks of Luke and Padme. Justice and order, obtained by whatever means necessary, are the marks of Leia and Anakin.
How the throne room scene actually should’ve gone:
“If you will not turn to the Dark Side, perhaps she will.”
“Pffffthahahahaha yeah, okay Dad, let me know how that turns out. Look, the reason I’m here instead of her is because I want you alive and not a cloud of vaporized plastic. You know she strangled Jabba the Hutt with the chain he put around her neck, right? That’s what she does to people who try to control her. Better tell your Emperor you’re not allowed to have any more ideas.”
#this is so true it’s beautiful#I bet Vader almost felt glad every time Luke turned up with the lightsaber when they faced off#Vader was like ‘Oh thank the Force it’s the nice one that got the lightsaber skills’
You want to know what the biggest nonissue in Star Wars is?
Leia having memories of Padme.
And people make such a big deal about it all the time!
Leia is incredibly force sensitive! The force gives force sensitive people visions all the time! If Leia didn’t know what the force was or that she was force sensitive then she could easily mistake a force vision for a memory!
It’s literally that easy.
There are so many plot holes and in universe arguments to be had and people continue to get so worked up about this one?
The one with the easiest explanation?
So then why doesn’t Luke remember her?
If you watch Revenge of the Sith you can see that Leia’s eyes are open while Padme is dying and after. Luke’s eyes, however, are closed. George Lucas has said that this is why she has visual memories of her mother. Her eyes were open.
I still feel like that’s a bit of a stretch though. I mean I can suspend disbelief for a lot of things, but they were babies. They were just born. Ultimately George needed to communicate this better to the audience. Nice to know the reason Luke doesn’t remember Mama is because he fell asleep though. Poor Luke.
How is it a stretch though? The force is literally space magic it doesn’t work on logical rules? It gives people visions of their past and potential futures and all that.
I think that Luke heard his mother actually and didn’t realize it was a force memory because he repeats the words she spoke on her death bed almost verbatim.
There’s a difference between thinking it could have been executed better, versus debating it on forums and arguing about it… like the dudebros that were being referenced do. They are the supposedly hardcore Star Wars fans who would absolutely pick apart a scene and notice the details like Leia’s eyes being open and Luke’s being closed, but they still don’t accept that the explanation is just that. Open eyed, force sensitive Leia.
Yeah it’s like ok you guys could just admit that she’s force sensitive and have an easy explanation that makes sense or you could continue to plug your ears and close your eyes.
Now that you bring it up, I remember something. We all know Luke tends to close his eyes when using the Force. Well, there’s two points in the OT where Leia uses the Force. At the end of Empire Strikes Back, when she hears Luke calling for help:
And at the end of Return of the Jedi, when she confirms Luke’s alive for Han.
Both times, eyes wide open. Where Luke’s earliest training involves closing his eyes to get in tune with the Force, and he still does so sometimes even in the third movie. I’d go so far as to suggest Luke’s got his hood up at the end of The Force Awakens when we first see him because he was covering his eyes and trying to sense who was approaching through the Force. (And he does figure it out, which is why he’s amazed but not startled or surprised.) Leia, a few scenes earlier, senses Han on the Starkiller with her eyes open, and only closes them when it hits her what her impression means.
More than that, the way the ESB scene is edited you get the impression Leia’s seeing a vision. Luke doesn’t get visions until ESB, but he does hear voices in the original movie.
This is so interesting!
I’ve never noticed this but I did immediately think of two moments from the canon comics that we see the twins use the force:
#I am never. never ever. over how open and soft han solo’s face gets when leia shows him even the slightest bit of honest affection #it flips this switch inside him it unstoppers this font of—something #something young and unguarded and wondering #and she’s not even flirting but she’s looking at him all open and affectionate and for all his pushing and cajoling #han solo has no idea what to do with that except return it #a hundredfold #(i love these assholes so fuckin much I’m sorrY) (via notbecauseofvictories)
My first reaction to this was pretty much to scream, “WELL, GOODBYE” because, holy shit, canon confirmation that Obi-Wan would leave the Jedi Order for Anakin, I’m going to revel in these feelings about my ship, go on without me.
But even beyond that I think it’s really spot-on characterization because Obi-Wan really and truly fully dedicated himself to Anakin, by this point he is 100% going to devote his life to guiding Anakin, wherever that takes him. He would never force Anakin into a choice that wasn’t truly his own, he thinks Anakin belongs with the Jedi (he’s too young, he’s not ready, being part of the Jedi means being part of something bigger/stronger–in other words, Anakin needs that structure in his life), but if Anakin truly wants to go, then Obi-Wan will go with him.
At the same time, one of the central points about Obi-Wan’s character is that one of his greatest flaws (if you want to call it that) is the same as Anakin’s: attachment.
Yoda began to pace the small chamber, the tapping of his gimer stick loud in its silence. "Know do you, Obi-Wan, why reluctant I was for Skywalker to become your apprentice?“
he know? Not for certain. And once he and Qui-Gon had prevailed over
the Council, and Anakin had been made his Padawan, Yoda’s objections had
no longer mattered.
“Ah … no, Master,” he said cautiously.Yoda
flicked him a skeptical glance.
“Hmmm. Then tell you I will. Reluctant I
was because the same flaw you share, Obi-Wan. The flaw of attachment.”
–Wild Space, by Karen Miller
The above moment is about Obi-Wan’s dedication to his vow to see Anakin trained, but that moment doesn’t exist in a vacuum, it exists alongside Obi-Wan’s tendency to become attached to that which he loves–and loves Anakin he does. (Revenge of the Sith, Obi-Wan directly tells Anakin that he loved him.)
This is why I say that Anakin Skywalker is the great love of Obi-Wan Kenobi’s life. It doesn’t matter if I mean it romantically or platonically or in a more familial sense, because he’s attached to Anakin, he loves Anakin, he’s chosen to dedicate his life to Anakin, he would leave the Jedi Order for Anakin, he spends the last 20 years of his life watching over Anakin’s child.
He’s not the only person Obi-Wan has loved, there have been many, in various forms. Qui-Gon Jinn, Siri Tachi, Satine Kryze, the Jedi Order as a whole. But his dedication to and love for Anakin are greater than all of them.
consider this: Obi Wan’s been in love with Anakin for years, hopelessly pining. he’s fought side by side with him throughout the clone wars, they’ve saved each other countless times, and, in his eyes, they have an unshakeable bond. they’re each other’s closest friends. he sees Anakin struggling, and sees his anger and sadness, but when he reaches out he gets pushed away. Anakin goes to the chancellor instead of Obi Wan, and it hurts, but he understands: Obi Wan is a jedi, after all, and Anakin is angry with the council. Anakin slips farther and farther from him, and obi wan can’t be there for him, even though he wants to be, too wrapped up in the war.
then, his troops turn against him, try to kill him. he survives, and his first thought is Anakin: if the clones are turning against the jedi, then he must be in danger. Anakin’s alive thank god, but Obi Wan then has to watch as the man he loves casts aside the jedi order (and therefore him) and falls to the dark side. then, he watches as Anakin kills defenseless younglings. he’s anguished and horrified: the man he loved is gone forever. he goes to Padme, because he’s desperate to find Anakin, and that’s when his heart is truly and utterly broken beyond repair. this man he loved, the man he’d always loved, had never been his at all, and never could have been.
“anakin is the father, isn’t he?”
Star Wars Episode IV “A New Hope”
A (probably unsuccessful) long-term attempt to gif every DVD I own: 9 of ?
So I’m picturing Leia getting escorted from her cell for reasons unknown to her, Darth Vader a step behind her, and she’s trying to figure out what’s happening, and then after a few very lengthy elevator rides she round the corner and sees…
this bitch and she just powerwalks to Tarkin, and Vader’s like, wait what, and Leia is honestly excited because here’s a person she knows and hates, and she’s like, “what should I insult? His hair? His family? His personal habits? Can I insult Vader at the same time?” and then doesn’t flinch when Vader bumps her shoulder like “What the hell, Organa,” but just continues with her lil’ diatribe.